Jeffrey’s Take: The opportunity for transformation this pandemic has for humanity with Kash Khan

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Transcription: Jeffrey’s Take:  The opportunity for transformation this pandemic has for humanity with Kash Khan

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Jeffrey Smith (00:07):

Hi, everyone. This is Jeffrey Smith and welcome to Live Healthy – Be Well. In this podcast I am being interviewed by Kash Khan for his Facebook page, and he was generous enough to share with us. If you’re interested in joining a Magnificent New Normal, then you can go here and register. I strongly encourage you to do so.

What did I do on my summer vacation? I spoke with some of the most powerful thought leaders and world changers anywhere, about their recommendations for how we can step into the highest version of ourselves, their vision of what a post-pandemic civilization is and can be, and beautiful new choices and perspectives that we can incorporate into our new self as we emerge from this pandemic.  Again, go to a to register for free.  I’ve got some gifts there when you do. I have a 12-page summary of Seeds of Deception. I have a little eBook based on other interviews of me, and we have a lot more in these 40 days of life-transforming interviews, one each day, a community forum, and lots more. I’ll see you there.

Kash Khan (01:27):

Hello, welcome Jeffrey Smith back to the Educate Inspire Change podcast. It’s a pleasure to have you back on.

Jeffrey Smith (01:33):

I’m so glad to be here. We’re launching something today and you’re the first person and people I’m talking about it with, so it’s very exciting.

Kash Khan (01:43):

I’m super excited to hear more about it. We spoke briefly before about this new project that you have, a Magnificent New Normal.  Please just dive straight into it. Let us know exactly the purpose of this project. And personally, I’m really inspired and really intrigued to hear more about it. So take it away and let us know exactly what we’re getting into here.

Jeffrey Smith (02:01):

Okay. I’m hoping to flip people’s thinking 180 degrees. If people have been thinking fear and problems and suffering, and “I just want to get my old life back,” what we have now is an unprecedented opportunity, individually and as a society. I got a strong intuition about that. I saw some signs in the environment and I felt like we were in a phase transition. Individually and collectively we can leap forward. So I pulled together 40 outstanding thought leaders and world changers for a 40-day and 40-night transformational process called the Magnificent New Normal, which begins today. I think you have a link in the description of how to get there. I guess I’m the first person who’s been through it, because I interviewed all the 40 people. What happened was it has completely crystallized into a new awareness for me. I want to share that with you and what you have to look forward to and what these people are saying.

Jeffrey Smith (03:08):

I’m going to start with Bruce Lipton, The New Science of Consciousness – Biology of Belief. He talks about the caterpillar–we’ll show a clip of him in a little while–he talks about the caterpillar to the butterfly, that transformation. Before it goes into the cocoon, it is voracious. It eats more than a hundred times its weight, and then it goes silent.  He said that we are now in the time of the cocoon. Now what happens in the cocoon? Obviously it comes out on the other side as a butterfly, but as Lynne Twist talks about for Pachamama Alliance–she talks about the imaginal cells, the cells that find each other in the cocoon to orchestrate the metamorphosis into the butterfly, and that we emerge totally different. The butterfly looks nothing like the caterpillar.

Jeffrey Smith (04:08):

She and others are also representing indigenous wisdom, or are in fact indigenous leaders in the 40-day program. What’s amazing is that this whole pandemic shutdown is part of more than one prophecy. The indigenous elders talk about the prophecies and also give a completely new lens to interpret this. Before I go into the prophecies I want to just share probably the thing that most of us can relate to, and that is, Lynne Twist says, that she sees this like morning sickness. If you don’t know you’re pregnant, morning sickness feels like you’re sick, and you’re disoriented, and you may die and all this. But when you realize that it’s birth, everything changes in that context. Now, put yourself in my position, having done 40 interviews. Every interview starts with the same question: “What is your vision for a post-pandemic civilization?”

Jeffrey Smith (05:12):

We have Bruce Lipton, Sue Morter, Deborah Poneman, Nina Simons, Alison Armstrong, Zach Bush, Terry Patten, Matthew Fox, Eben Alexander, Mark and Clare Dubois, Eric Edmeades, Michelle James,  Sarah McCrum, Austin, and David Perlmutter, Tom O’Bryan–all these people the same thing, describing their vision of a post-pandemic civilization. What happened for me is this intuition and knowing about this time became strengthened, validated and firm, but it also turned into this kind of diamond.  I saw all these facets. I saw Sarah McCrum, who in automatic writing wrote an entire book, as if from money to the human race. Holly Woods, an expert on finding your purpose; Tom O’Bryan on shifting from the sympathetic to the parasympathetic; Jim Mitchell on listening big and deep connection; BJ Fogg on the mechanics of transformation, from new behaviors into habits; Eben Alexander and Sue Morter, both with amazing experiences. Eben had a near-death experience that made the cover of Newsweek as proof of heaven, and Sue Morter, who went out of her body in a 360-degree vision.

Jeffrey Smith (06:33):

S many different people gave a different, overlapping and complementary angle as to what is emerging right now. It became synthesized in my awareness and I see this time with new eyes. I’ll share some of that, maybe after we play the video, to give you an idea of what some of the people are saying. It’s given me a level of confidence and I’m seeing this time differently. I’m excited about it, I’m anticipating, and I’m confident that this is a metamorphosis, that this is a transformation, and we help people do that.

You know, so many online courses are like, okay, let’s throw in five interviews a day for seven days. People get overwhelmed. They have a so-called FOMO (fear of missing out). They then purchase the series and maybe they never watch it. That’s a model we’ve all seen, over and over again.

Jeffrey Smith (07:44):

I’m the leading spokesperson on the health dangers of genetically modified foods and Roundup, so I’m in all these health groups and I’m on stage and all these things, so I’m aware of the standard model. Also I’m aware of the conference model–I’ve been in conferences, over and over again and you have to reserve an entire day. But what’s going to make the transformation effective for you, so that you come out the other side? How much time do we need? How much information per day? What if you’re busy? What if that particular speaker’s not for you and it’s not really resonating? I was putting it together and I had a lot of help with this. What is a transformation model? What is a cocoon model?  First of all, we chose 40 days and 40 nights. Why not?

Jeffrey Smith (08:36):

It’s in the Bible. It’s like let’s take a full course of transformation. But we can’t dedicate our lives 24/7 to a process. So it’s like a titration and drip, drip, drip–one life-transforming, inspiring interview from a thought leader or world changer every day. And you don’t have to rush and watch it before it leaves, because that’s the standard summer model. It’s available for a week. And if you don’t have time on a particular day, I strongly encourage you to at least listen to the answer to the first question, which is always the same, as we mentioned: “What is your vision for a post-pandemic civilization?” You can link right to that from the email or the second question, always the same.  Suggestions for how the participants can step into their full power, into the highest version of themselves. You can get a daily dose of inspiration and then listen to the full interview if you’d like and then follow up with the resources made available.

Jeffrey Smith (09:40)

There’s a community forum where there’s a challenge every day to participate, from the speakers. And there’s also experiential exercises. You see if you’re just listening and you’re not working with the information, that’s not brain-compatible learning. So we recommend that everyone create a journal, and you can get a hard copy journal with the cover that we have for everyone, or you can do it online.  But you see, everyone’s transformation is going to be different.

So how do we organize? How do we organize a 40-day transformation, when so many people have different requirements? So we explain–as I’m sure everyone in your audience is aware–certain things are going to reverberate. Certain things, when we hear, are going to open our eyes to give us energy.  Certain things are going to just pass through.

Jeffrey Smith (10:35)

Certain things are going to make us fatigued. If we look at and listen to how we are responding, we’re going to end up with information in about three different categories, and we recommend that you work with this information in your journal. The first category is just basic knowledge, the wisdom gems.  Draw a line down the middle. The second one is action steps, things that you want to do and implement in your life. And those action steps… it’s going to become too long, so, you’re going to have to consolidate into the back of the book, My Magnificent To-Do Lists. Then there’s a third, perhaps the most precious, which I call “My Magnificence.” When you hear Holly Woods talking about purpose, when you hear Mark Dubois talking about a simple technique to write down the things that you long for and the things that are longed for by the world at this time, and spend some time with that each day, looking….

Jeffrey Smith (11:25):

…when you hear people talk about what gives us passion. Then you start to inventory: what is it about you that you want to recognize? Your superpower, your connection to source–that’s your magnificence. And that is the touchstone for this whole thing. That’s why there’s no one-size-fits-all.

And then we have ways for people who want to invest in the empowerment package. We have even more!  We have 15 live, interactive sessions with our experts. Before, you went to small groups with a protocol to build community within the small groups and to help integrate, deepen, and practice your magnificent new normal. We’re really serious about transformation here, because this whole thing is driven by the promise that we’re in a phase transition. I’ll talk about phase transitions a little later, in terms of what they are in chemistry, and physics, and consciousness, and what the new consciousness—the new science of consciousness—says in terms of nonlocal, nonlinear. We are in a situation right now where if we use this, if we listen to the prophecies (which we’ll share), if we understand that this is the time we’ve been praying in, in spite of all its problems…this is the time to get serious about being the imaginal cell to move the cocoon into a butterfly. This is the time to invest in ourselves and to use this time, because if we simply get our own lives back, Kash, it will be the greatest loss in human civilization, I think.  This is the time.

Kash Khan (13:03):

Oh, beautiful. I think this course embodies the words “Be the change you wish to see in the world” better than any course I’ve ever come across in recent years. That’s why I feel so passionate about this. Perhaps we play a trailer for everyone to watch about now.  Jeffery, do you think it’s a good time?

Jeffrey Smith (13:17):

I think so, too, but there’s one thing I want to add, because there’s a number of prophecies here that are brought out. One of the prophecies that Lynne Twist refers to comes from the Ecuadorian indigenous elders, who talk about that we’re careening into fast, into disillusion, into problems, into existential issues, and that we did not have the ability to stop on our own. We needed to stop. And so a gift from the Earth—an answer to our soul’s prayer—was to force a stop for us to transform. There’s another prophecy which will pick up on the other side of it: the condor and the eagle, and the times of disruption that we may be in right now. Sure, we are. I’m in California breathing the smoke and blossoming in place. Why don’t we share them, and I’ll give some more information about the prophecies, about this time, when we’re done.

Kash Khan:

Beautiful. Here we go, guys.

Bruce Lipton clip (14:35):

We are in a caterpillar phase of human civilization, where we’re destructing everything around us. You know, our appetite is so big we’re eating up everything on the planet, including the resources, all this because of our voracious appetite. Well, we’ve hit a wall, and that’s where we are right now. Civilization is now in the process of going into a cocoon and that’s where we are, and that’s where, if you understand where we are now, it makes sense. And then I said, “What’s happening in that cocoon?”, and I got two important things. One, the caterpillar, which is comprised of millions of cells–and cells are like little people–if you were a cell in a caterpillar during the voracious period, you were moving around, you were eating, you were digesting, you were building, you were working, working…and then you go into the cocoon. Guess what? No work, no movement, no eating.

Bruce Lipton (15:24):

And I go, if you were in that civilization you would be just like where we are right now, looking around, going, “Whoa, what the heck? The whole thing is falling apart right here!”  I go,” Yeah, it’s falling apart.” And then I said, “While it’s falling apart, a new civilization or a new organism of civilization is arising. Going from the destructive caterpillar phase, human civilization is embarking on a new path equivalent to the butterfly, where we can live here with a very small footprint and enjoy our life on this planet.

Lynne Twist clip (15:58):

What everybody’s doing who’s listening to this — I hope a million people in some fashion are drawn to this, because it’s yours to do. I want to say directly, if you’re drawn to this kind of a webinar, this kind of a speaker series, and if you’re listening and you’re actually hearing this–not just me, but Bruce Lipton and all the amazing people that you’ve talked about, you are an imaginal cell and you have a job to do. Your job is to generate possibility. Your job is to stay the course. Your job is to transform, metamorphize the collapsing of everything into the birth of everything. Your job is to turn this breakdown, the breakdown in every sector of society, into a breakthrough, and find your role. It’s not a small role or a big role. It’s just your role. It’s your Dharma.

Clare Dubois clip (16:52):

Why bother listening to this summit? Well, first of all, you’re going to listen to some interviews, given who he’s got, these are going to be really, really good. Everybody that he’s got speaking are people that you want to be in a deeper relationship with. Why? Because the tuning fork of what they are, what they’ve lived, what their brilliance is, who they are–that tuning fork, if you give it your full presence and listen to them, it’s going to start ringing something in you. It’s going to start eliciting something in you. So in terms of catalyzing your own deepening and your own emergence, this is going to be a one of those series where it actually–you know, that titration process, that 40 days and 40 nights–if you did listen to the majority of these, you’re not going to be the same at the end as you were at the beginning. You’re going to find yourself coming out in a completely different shape. This is a marvelous opportunity to sit and allow other people’s resonances to start ringing the parts of you that are waiting to come top-side.

Zach Bush clip (17:51):

That’s extraordinary. What a vision. I love this. I think it’s exactly what’s needed for the world right now is bite-sized hope, really. We need a daily infusion and I would include myself in that. I need a daily infusion of hope that says there are people aligned with a new normal; there’s a people that are envisioning what that new normal will look like. And there’s a concerted and intentional purpose behind seven and a half billion souls showing up right now to do their best work: to create this new world that we can live within so soon. The solutions are at hand, the reality is at hand. And it’s just a matter of decision; it’s a matter of change of the mindset. And so what you’re describing is this daily infusion of the next step or the next infusion of energy to bring you up to that next vibration of hope and expectation for that new reality to emerge. And so, I think your timing is perfect.

Mark Dubois clip (18:50):

Having the instinct and the courage, the knowing, and the manifesting, pulling together an invitation to take humanity’s greatest pause. And let us all think about, “What does a flourishing world look like, and how do we unfold our wings to co-create it?” and make that be a part of the conversation, not more of the old normal.  We get to co-create such a flourishing new reconnecting to this sacred.

Tom O’Bryan clip (19:23)

This goes beyond hope for me, Jeffrey. This, the Magnificent New Normal, is actually a path—a path to a magnificent new normal, and we want that. We want the norm to be…and then I love your wrap, I love that analogy that the more we put in a little bit of time, every day to be abet when it begins, the more catalyst it is to bring that new norm up a little higher, a little richer, a little more full of life and vitality. I think this is just a fabulous, fabulous paradigm that you’re setting. And it’s not been done before. No one’s done this. This is something that Jeffrey came up with and it wouldn’t happen, it wouldn’t have happened if you hadn’t done everything that you’ve done up until this point.

Bruce Lipton clip (20:17):

In a situation where you’re offering the world what is needed now at this very important time of transition, you’ve been a wonderful voice of reason in a world that’s been kind of crazy. And I’m here because I want to be with you, as we move from this thing into the future that we can thrive into.  That’s what I’m looking for.

Clare Dubois clip (20:38):

There are dreams in you that need to be birthed. There’s a version of you that is the magnificent new normal, the one that actually is committed to living the most meaningful life that there’s ever been. So I would just say, give yourself to this—give yourself to this series. I think this is going to be outstanding.

Kash Khan (21:08):

And we’re back. Wow, Jeffrey, that’s amazing. I’m simply blown away by the amount of support and the number of amazing speakers that you have on board. How did you get so many people on board in such a short space of time?  I’m really blown away.

Jeffrey Smith (21:21)

Well, there’s two things. First of all, I know a lot of these folks. I’ve been speaking and doing activism for a quarter of a century and I have movies and books.  I’ve spoken in 45 countries, so I have my own friends. But also, people really resonated. Interestingly, the way I described the whole thing at the beginning to everyone, I didn’t even mention yet. Tom, O’Bryan talked about it during the thing about using his hands, and I’ll share that. But when I gave people that vision, which I’m about to share, that little analogy, people got it. They said, “You’re right.”

Jeffrey Smith (22:06):

Forty years ago I saw a chemist and a spiritual teacher. They walked into a bar…no, the chemist and the spiritual teacher were talking. And the chemist explained that during a titration curve in chemistry, you’re dropping in a solution, and in the beginning, nothing happens. It’s just nothing.  It’s changing inside, but you don’t see a change in the pH, nothing happens. And all of a sudden it starts to change. Then it starts to move up and then it levels off—a new normal. And he said, the quality of the drops makes no difference in the first stage and the last stage. But the quality of drops is all important in the middle while the phase transition is occurring. The way I interpret this in terms of human systems is very simply–as an activist, I’m trying to change the behavior of society and we’ve worked–

Jeffrey Smith (23:01):

–we’ve actually been effective at changing behavior, at least a couple hundred million people, ultimately. So I have some experience thinking about global changes and global shifts. In an individual or a collective process you spend a lot of time trying to get a change, trying to get someone to commit to make a change. All your effort is to overcome their resistance, give them the vision, give them the motivation, and then they say, “Okay, I’m going to change.” The quality of information at that point changes. Now the receptor cells are open to how, and if you give them good information at that point then they adapt in a very good way. If you give them bad information at that point, or no information, then they’re using this precious time of transformation and coming out short, coming short.

Jeffrey Smith (23:55):

When I started asking people, “What’s it like in the pandemic for you, what’s happening?” every single person I talked to—this was early on—“You know, I realized that when I get my life back, it’s gotta be different.” They were redefining, re-prioritizing, realizing what is important to them, what is not important to them, how to change the stress of their lives, etc., and I realized the pandemic has done the heavy lifting. Everyone is now doing the changes, thinking about the changes, reorganizing. I also became aware, years ago, that consciousness is not linear and local. It is non-linear and non-local. We act as a system. I’ve been involved with meditation, transcendental meditation, for 45 years. I’ve seen collective consciousness shifts. I understand how a small percentage of people can move a large society. I realized that if every individual now, or a lot of individuals, are having this lively, “I need to make a change,” then it is very, very likely (and in my sense, I was confident) that that was lively in collective consciousness.

Jeffrey Smith (25:08):

And we’re going to explain how Black Lives Matter and the protest movement came out of this shift in just a minute, because the shift is very interesting. My understanding of it became more clear with some of these interviews. I was presenting that what we need is high-quality input. How do we change? Now that everyone’s said, “Okay, I want to come out the other side,” how do we do it? The drops are the wisdom of the new choices, the new perspectives, of each different guest. We’re learning not only the new choices, but how to integrate them. As I mentioned, BJ Fogg, who is an expert in behavior change, he explains how to take new behaviors and turn them into habits.

Jeffrey Smith (25:49):

Austin and David Perlmutter talk about shifting the brain physiology from the amygdala to the prefrontal cortex and how to do that. Because if you’re in the amygdala, you can’t adopt new choices, you can’t make a choice, you can’t integrate new behaviors. So what keeps us in the amygdala? The fear, the headlines on the news all the time. So this is an antidote to the kind of stress and fear that people are experiencing now. There are the new drops, there’s the how-to. Such an important piece of transformation for so many people is to move forward as a community–either in a small group or a large group, but moving not alone as an isolated person. What happens with each of the speakers is they talk about a shift from the classical physics to the quantum—from the isolated billiard ball model of the world to a field model.

Jeffrey Smith (26:49):

Bruce Lipton talks about you can take some cells from a human being, put it in a Petri dish, send it out hundred miles away–videotapes simultaneously both of them, the human and their cells. When the human reaches a height, a level of emotional excitement, the cells react instantaneously, showing that we’re part of a system, that a mother and a child can have the same thing with shared cells from the time in pregnancy, and that there’s also a shared collective system.  But there’s also a collective system in consciousness. If we switch from the narrow reductionist, isolated thinking into a holistic field-based model, then the problems that we’re facing often go away. As an activist I can tell you that the foundation, the girding of the problem for GMOs, is this reductionist narrow thinking on so many levels: on the level of biology, on the level of politics, on the level of activism–all of it.  The basic problem is so many careening issues in life that are hitting the wall right now, is this sense of separation.

Jeffrey Smith (28:14):

Now I can bring in that prophecy, the eagle and the condor.  Lynne Twist talks about that there are these 500-year cycles, according to these indigenous leaders. One of the 500-year cycles started in 1492, so it ended around 1992. That was a dark and dominant period and it’s moving to light and balance. But there’s a very specific nuance here, that the eagle and the condor…the eagles are the people that use their mind; the condor are the people that live in their heart and touch indigenous wisdom. At the end of the previous 500-year cycle, around now, the people who’ve developed their mind will have the epitome of developing their mind and could even extend the use of their mind through equipment, through things–computers and whatnot. They become depleted in the heart and the depletion of the heart threatens their survival.

Jeffrey Smith (29:19)

Then there’s the condor people–deeply connected to the heart, to the intelligence of nature, though not so functional in the world like the eagle people, and that threatens their survival. During this time the two come together so that the mind and heart can connect. The reductionist thinking of the mind connects to nature, connects to humanity. We’re going to get to Black Lives Matter in just a minute. It’s all so connected. I mean, I could just see this beautiful diamond that’s as a result of my going through all these interviews. For the eagle and condor prophecy, there’s a period of some decades at the beginning, now, where there’s a disruption.  It is a gift from Mother Earth. The disruptions are to establish the right relationship with her. In other words, humble the eagle people to realize—no, no, you’re not actually in charge. There’s something more powerful and you need to get reset.

Jeffrey Smith (30:28):

They talk about the virus that’s coming from Mother Earth, as a gift from Mother Earth, and that this time is tough. I am not going to discount people’s stress and problems and suffering and death and disease at this time. I can’t go outside of my house and take a deep breath safely. But it’s the growing pains, it’s the morning sickness. As Lynne Twist said, we need to hospice the death of the old systems which aren’t working, and midwife the birth of the new. So many of the people, when we talked to them…we have Alison Armstrong, a relationship expert. We have various people that talked about connecting. Jim Mitchell, who’s the most incredible leadership consultant, memorable-based leadership, how to connect–when you think about it, is that simply a psychological issue, to just to connect with people?

Jeffrey Smith (31:24):

If you think about what is our role if we’re shifting into a field-relationship–well, it’s all about connection. That is the antidote on the individual level, from the reductionist separate view, to the connection view. And we have how to connect with ourselves–adaptation, how to connect with nature. People talking about that–the nature baths, a whole way of connecting with nature. How to connect with our loved ones, how to connect with our wife or husband or spouse, or our partners.  If this turns out to be very powerful action that we do individually, to break the boundaries between us and others. I have Gabriel Kram in here. He has an entire system called restorative practices, about restorative connection with ourselves, with each other, and with nature. He spoke with 5,000 people and said, “What do you do to reconnect?” And he’s cataloged them all and found out the different physiological states that require different ways of connecting.

Jeffrey Smith (32:23)

If you’re in flight, it’s one. If you’re in fright–you know, anger and fight–it’s another.  If you’re in a freeze, it’s another. If you’re in trying to defend yourself or appease, it’s another. Ways of connecting individually turn out to be the ways as if we’re like the brain cells, reaching out to create new connections. If we are feeling more connected–-here’s where we’re going to get into the Black Lives Matter and the protests–if we’re starting to shift and feel more connected by virtue of our blossom in place, by virtue of our forced isolation, by virtue of our forced time-out, our forced global pause, our global meditation, perhaps–if we start to feel more connected with others, then it sheds a light, it shines a light on where we have been unconnected. And where have we been most unconnected as a species? One of the areas is in our race relationships, the horrible ways that some people don’t feel safe at all in their lives and the way that the structures have created that system.

Jeffrey Smith (33:37):

We are exposing as we extend the connection apparatus–as we start to feel the field of humanity–the shadows that are in that field, the hard edges which have been the results of structures that were created long before this time, that have hung on. They show up.  Holly Woods talks about a stage model developed by Terriel Fallon, where people and society go through these different explicit stages. She names them and they’re very numbered and they have very specific examples. She said she saw the entire collective consciousness go through a stage in about four or five months and that the protest about racism is the perfect expression of the new stage as we become aware of our connectedness. If that’s the case, what’s next?  The next level of connectedness to all of humanity, and then beyond humanity, to nature.

Jeffrey Smith (34:50):

Where is the side effect of not being connected to nature? Look around. The climate, the GMOs, the degradation–all these things–it is a side effect. It is a symptom of our lack of connection to nature. But the indigenous people talk about something far more profound than simply stopping the ecocide. They talk about a reverence, a gratitude, a support from nature, that there is a reciprocity. It’s not simply seeing nature, go, “Okay, we’re connected.” There’s actually a lively intelligence of nature that we can harness and embody and embrace, that supports us, that demonstrates to us how harmony can occur and gives us the foundation of what could be our post-pandemic civilization. I’ll stop. I’ve been talking a long time. I have more to say, but please you can comment, ask questions, take it from here, and I’ll come back in.

Kash Khan (35:58):

Sure. No, you can talk for hours and I’d be happy to listen to you. This is just so much wisdom and experience and knowledge that you’ve got. Even this “Live,” alone, has such a great value, and we’re getting many comments coming in, just so you know.  Utta Schmeltzer says, “This really resonates with me as I have been training and experiencing heart-brain coherence myself, and still do.”  So this course, it does feel like it’s handmade for somebody like yourself, who is really in touch with her heart and your brain. And please visit, and you can check out the course for yourself. Maybe you could talk a bit about the course, Jeffrey, in terms of how it’s structured and the cost behind the course. When I heard the price of the course, it really blew me away. I was expecting you to say hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, you know, for all these speakers–40 days, 40 nights of knowledge and inspiration and change… can you let people like Utta know how the course is structured?

Jeffrey Smith (36:54):

Sure. If you go to your website and sign up, first of all, you can take the course for free, okay? There’s no charge to take the 40 days. And every day you get an email that introduces the next speaker and gives you five options to go directly to one answer. We talk about that post-pandemic vision of post-pandemic civilization, how to step into your full power, resources from the speaker, an experiential exercise recommended or led by the speaker, and an assignment for the group forum, where you can then get there and interact with others and move forward as a community.

Now, if you want to purchase, each speaker’s available for seven days, but I strongly recommend that you invest in a deeper transformation experience. And that’s what I call the empowerment package, where it starts at $59 for the digital.

Jeffrey Smith (37:53):

Then you can get stuff delivered to you, like a thumb drive for $99 or whatever–$97–I don’t actually remember. That is where you unlock…obviously there are lots of bonuses. The speakers just pile on bonuses because they want to give you what they have for this time, so you have an entire library. And you get permanent access to all of these interviews. You can share them with others. You can go at your own pace. You can review things even after the seven days, but it unlocks a series of live interactive events.

This Saturday, and every Saturday during the course, Joan Blades, who’s one of the interviewees…you may know her as the founder of Move On and Mom’s Rising, but she also founded Living Room Conversations. She’s obviously a progressive and she was finding it difficult to connect and have conversations with people who were conservative, and so she created a way of having a bridge across the divide.

Jeffrey Smith (38:46)

It turns out that this curated conversation is also an excellent way to build community and to deepen and integrate knowledge, and so we’ve selected, for each of the Saturdays, themes from the previous week’s speakers. You’ll get together as a Zoom call. She and I will introduce it the first time and she may pick it up after that, and then people get divided into rooms of five, with a curated conversation to work with the knowledge, to go deep. That takes an hour. Then you come back and then there’s a sharing, Q and A and final. On Sundays, there’s also speakers doing live interactive events. Sarah McCrum, who you’ll see as the second speaker–she’s the one that did this automatic writing of an entire book called Love Money, Money Loves You–talking about turning our relationship with money around 180 degrees.

Jeffrey Smith (39:36)

She’s going to be there the first Sunday, giving more information and answering questions. Rick Smith’s going to sort of lead an authentic relating exercise. Alberto Villoldo, a shaman who spent years learning wisdom from the shamans all over Latin America, is going to bring some of his experience in his time with you.  Austin Perlmutter is going to talk about shifting the brain physiology so you can take more advantage of this time. Holly Woods is going to take us on a journey about finding your purpose. Deborah Poneman, one of the founders of the Science and Art of Success, is going to have a deeper dive with everyone. So people can interact, ask questions, see masterclasses in front of them, have local conversations. That’s like $59 for about 15 of them.

Jeffrey Smith (40:30):

It’s not about the money. And then we’re also asking everyone, if you join the course and you pay the $59, you also get access to a forum where you can find other members for a small group. That’s where I feel a lot of the work gets done. Or you meet as a small group on a regular basis. I’ve designed protocols based on different groups I’ve been meeting in for 30 years. I consulted various protocols and put something together where it’s designed for a number of things. One, most definitely, to connect with others, deep connection. We talked about the importance of connection a few minutes ago. Let’s not make this an intellectual exercise. I’ve been curating a conversation, then curating a regular meeting here in Northern California with a group of people.

Jeffrey Smith (41:25)

I love to dance. We started meeting for lunch after dancing. I started to curate a conversation in a specific way, and we just fell into a level of coherence and connection that was stunning, so I share that protocol, the connection, and also how to integrate and deepen the understanding of the gems of the course. Since everyone’s on a different journey for the 40 days, the protocol means, “What do you want to talk about during your time of check-in? How do you want to structure that check-in around the thing that you’re working with in your journal, or working within a recent interview that you really want to deepen with?” You become a sovereign leader during that part of your check-in and can really use the time and the attention and support of everyone. There’s an opportunity to be more accountable and more specific with your transformation.

Jeffrey Smith (42:15):

You get to tune in and say, “Okay, this week, this is what I want to work on. This is what I want to deliver.” Next week, you get to say, “This is what happened. This is what I did. And this was the result. Did I do what I said I was gonna do? Or didn’t I?” You get to overcome the shame and guilt of, “Oh no. What if I don’t do it?”  Because you have a supportive group and their response is, ”Okay, how can I help? What do you need from us?” And you realize, “Oh, I don’t have to do this with the old model of the shaming and the guilt. I can do this with the support and love of my community.” In that small group you get to show up and practice what it’s like to be in your magnificence. So show up in your magnificent new normal, and adjust and tweak and learn, and show up the next week in a more magnificent new normal.

Jeffrey Smith (42:54):

The group can go through the Living Room Conversations together if you want, or just keep your private groups going separately. As you can tell, I’m passionate about this. The whole thing is designed so that if you’re really committed, you can dive in completely. And if you want to just put a toe in the water, you can just listen each day to the answer to the first question. You don’t have to pay anything. “What’s your vision of a post-pandemic civilization?” Or just the second question, some empowerment, inspiration to step into the highest vision of yourself. Hopefully, that’ll draw you in to want to listen to the whole interview and change your life. As you heard in that trailer, Claire Dubois, who is speaking is so powerful—you don’t want to miss Claire. Make it a red-letter time.

Jeffrey Smith (43:42)

She talks about a reverberation with the speakers where it’s like everyone’s a tuning fork. I have a section where someone interviews me and I interviewed her together, so it’s my chance to speak (that comes a little later in the 40 days) and I talk about stepping into your superhero self. As you know…gosh, I have been on the world stage for a while. I have taken responsibility to help protect the integrity of the DNA of nature. By the way, this Magnificent New Normal is the antidote to that. We talked about that, but I can make it more explicit.  I’ve asked audiences a lot, “How many people feel like there’s something tugging inside you?  Or “You want to express a higher level of gift for yourself in the world?” And most hands go up.

Jeffrey Smith (44:36):

And then I talk to people about, “Well, what’s holding you back?” It’s like there’s a ceiling right above their head of their voices on the bus, their fears. Their not-good-enough voices. Their what-if-people-reject-me voices. Their “what- if-what-if-what- if?  I describe how you go through the ceiling above the room and stand in the version of you that is calling you. If you find the gravity of that pulling you, the magnetism of that version of you that is calling you–and by the way, all of these 40 interviews are pushing in that direction–if you can stand there, you’re above the voices. You’re actually in a fearless place. Voices can show up and whatnot, but there’s an energy there that is ready to serve. And when you serve from that capacity, it’s as if there’s new resources, new magic that becomes available.

Jeffrey Smith (45:45)

And that is a blessing for the whole world, for people to step up into their Magnificent New Normal.

So this 40-day course is in part from my experience and the experience of others, and my experience is that there is a part of us that is magnificent and waiting to be expressed, and is glorious. From that place we can connect with the world in service and gratitude, and that’s what we’re waiting for in 40 days. If we do it enough as a group, if we have enough of us–so please share this interview, share this Facebook live with everyone you know, post it a lot on your Facebook. Listen and post a lot. And when you watch the interviews, share the interviews with everyone you know. Describe what your experience is. Bring more people in, because this is not an isolated event. We’re in a collective soup of consciousness, a field of consciousness. This is an opportunity for us to collectively rise as the superheroes of our lives. To find each other as the imaginal cells in the cocoon need to do in order to orchestrate the metamorphosis. Our transformation of society comes simply by following the service call, the alarm that’s already ringing and getting louder and louder as you listen to the 40 days. Just to follow that in service—that’s all, and to reach out and bring others in.

Kash Khan (47:19):

Beautiful! That resonates so deeply with me, because as little as two years ago I had never appeared on a video or been on the other side of the camera. But when I made that journey from loving in my head to loving in my heart, I was immediately filled with the confidence and the passion needed and the self-confidence to do these podcasts, to do Facebook Lives, to create documentaries, to create form, and really love my purpose. So everything that you’re saying resonates really deeply with me and I urge everyone listening that this course is 100%. The timing is impeccable and everyone there who’s maybe feeling a bit lost, who needs to find their purpose, who wants to love their true meaning–this course is made for you. And I can’t stress enough how much I’m passionate and behind this course and Jeffrey, this is probably the least I’ve ever spoken in a Facebook live and that’s an honor to you and your passion and your wisdom.

Kash Khan (48:08)

I can just listen to you for hours and hours. We’ve had a couple of conversations now, but I’m very confident that they won’t be the last. I’m really excited to maintain this friendship, maintain this relationship, build with you, grow with you, and really do what I can to promote your work and promote this course, in particular. Again, I’ll make sure we correspond to all the comments individually and we’ll send the course to everyone. Just so everyone knows, just to remind you: the course can be found at, so please leave your details there. You can watch it for free, but as Jeffrey mentioned, you can also pay to have a higher version of the course, where you can interact and be parts of groups and really get the support that you need. So many courses these days provide information, but they maybe don’t provide you with the tools to use that information and make a change in your life. It sounds to me like this course covers all bases–from the information, to the knowledge, to the inspiration, and then also how you can actively be the change that you want to see in the world. So, fantastic! Is there anything else you would like to add to the conversation, Jeffrey?

Jeffrey Smith (49:15):

I do want to suggest–I said it once, but I realize I didn’t say it with the same level of commitment and power that I think it deserves. I would like people to–if they think that this is something that they want to support, that they truly share that link with their tribe. This is some way to practice against the voices on the bus. Like “What if they don’t like it? What if they think, “I’m yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. I know.” This is not a rehearsal right now. This is an unprecedented moment in humanity’s consciousness. This is a time that according to the ancient indigenous prophecies we prayed into existence, and so we actually have a window of opportunity as a species, as a civilization. If any of that resonates, whether it’s for the humanity’s transformation or even just individually, I would like to almost deputize, it’s kind of a deputizing.

Jeffrey Smith (50:30):

There’s something where I feel like I need to say that really strongly. I took responsibility for the GMO world and there’s a lot of us doing it, but I didn’t just say,” Oh yeah, it’s someone else’s responsibility—they’ll do it.”  I described that feeling that it’s someone else’s responsibility and they’ll do it as the epidemic that has allowed GMOs to occur, that this epidemic of separation is not my responsibility. By taking responsibility I stepped into my service role, and we talked about that. If you feel inspired by this as a calling for this time, then one exercise would be…if you like, and I encourage you to take responsibility to bring this to your community, to your Facebook friends, to your family, to your email list, to your Instagram, Twitter friends, because what we’re doing is…we’re hearing the call inside like an alarm.

Jeffrey Smith (51:39):

If we take the role of passing it on, it’s as if “Now the alarm is being expressed outside.” What happens is part of the 40 days. We’re giving intellectual permission to voice what we intuitively know. We see on the screen, on television, coming across the banners from news on our phone–fear, tragedy, chaos, crisis. It’s a little hard for us to talk about this as a glorious time of transformation.  Understanding that there’s pain and suffering and death, knowing that, I’m still saying this is a glorious time of transformation, unprecedented. An opportunity to be alive right now is sensational. The course gives us the permission to know that, and even to speak it and even to share. Whether or not you want to say that to your friends at this point, or maybe after they’ve had a couple of weeks to like, ”Oh my God, I’ve completely reorganized my thinking about this time,” this is an opportunity for us to collectively ring the bell. And what happens when humanity re-appraises this time? Not as this devastating crisis, but as a launchpad—a quantum launchpad, which is a nonlinear jump, which can go to the next level. What happens when enough of us…doesn’t have to be everyone…what happens when enough of us say, “Yes, this is the time,” and we, as the imaginal cells, do that? So part of the calling right now that I’m getting is to ask for people to say, “Yeah, I’ll take responsibility and make sure to get the word out.” I just needed to say that because I felt like I wasn’t saying it enough.

Kash Khan (53:34):

Oh, thank you, honestly. No, I appreciate that fully. This page is called Educate Inspire Change for a reason, because we need people like you who can really find a passion and a determination to inspire change in others. We need people to underline and put in bold and caps lock and just make everything super, super clear, super, super push it forward, because I am the same. I’ve fallen victim to this many times where you can get on board with something, but then your interest can wane. To have somebody like you pushing this and being the real driving force behind this course, I think it needs someone like you at the helm to really keep people on their toes, to remind us that we’re here to be the change that you want to see in the world, and to remind us that each of us can make a huge impact in the world, similar to the way you have in the GMO world.

Kash Khan (54:19):

We all have the ability within us–it’s just the case of unlocking it. But people like you are required to shine that light for others, because many people perhaps lack the confidence and the knowledge that you have, but by you shining that light people can easily gain that knowledge and confidence. So I just want to extend gratitude to you. I’m really grateful to have met you and grateful to have had you on this show and the podcast. I’m grateful to have discovered this course, as well. And I’m really excited to see how much we can push it out and how much of an impact we can make in the world, collectively.

Jeffrey Smith (54:50)

Thank you, Kash. I’m excited to connect with your whole tribe, over and over again, during the 40 days. Educate Inspire Change, it’s like, “Hello! That’s our lives.”

Kash Khan (55:03):

Exactly. I’ve got goose bumps as I’m talking to you, brother, I really do.  I can’t wait for the next conversation. Even if you have any other guests you want to bring on, I’m more than happy for you to bring them on and take over the page. Just let me know, and I think our viewers would love to hear more from you and more from your friends as well.

Jeffrey Smith (55:20):

Thank you. And we’ll do that, we’ll do some Facebook Lives. We’ll share from their page to your page and whatnot. So we’ll have a lot of live conversations.

Kash Khan (55:29)

Fantastic. So just one last time, I want everyone to know the website to go to is Check out this course. It’s not only going to change your life, but it will change the life of others around you, and hopefully the world. Thank you so much for joining us, Jeffrey. It’s been a pleasure and an honor.

Jeffrey Smith (55:44)

Thank you, Kash.

Kash Khan (55:46)

Thank you.

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